Acts 1,2 Holy spirit and Tongues.

You or your Christian friends should find this informative.  You may either agree with it before or after its reading or it may be far from your present thoughts on the Holy Spirit of Acts 1 and 2.  It should also be read with the article “Who gets the Holy Spirit when and why”.  The book of Acts of the APOSTLES speaks of the twelve + Paul.  How, what and to whom they taught the Gospel.  Luke begins identifying a certain group and refers to them as “them” “ye” (you).   Eleven of the original 12 with specifics (given commandment, apostles, chosen saw Jesus after his resurrection).   

1st group spoken of:

1:2 unto the apostles whom he had chosen: Act 1:3  To whom also he shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God: [These are the criterias that distinguish those who got the gift].

Act 1:4  And, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me.

Act 1:5  For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.

Act 1:6  When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? Act 1:7  And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power. Act 1:8  But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth. Act 1:9  And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight. Act 1:10  And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; Act 1:11  Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven. Act 1:12  Then returned they unto Jerusalem from the mount called Olivet, which is from Jerusalem a sabbath day's journey.

1st group interacts with 2nd group:

Act 1:13  And when they were come in, they went up into an upper room, where abode both Peter, and James, and John, and Andrew, Philip, and Thomas, Bartholomew, and Matthew, James the son of Alphaeus, and Simon Zelotes, and Judas the brother of James. Act 1:14  These all continued with one accord in prayer and supplication, …

2nd Group:     with the women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with his brethren. 

3rd Group, new day:  Act 1:15  And in those days Peter stood up in the midst of the disciples, and said, (the number of names together were about an hundred and twenty,)

Act 1:16  Men and brethren, this scripture must needs have been fulfilled, which the Holy Ghost by the mouth of David spake before concerning Judas, which was guide to them that took Jesus.

Act 1:17  For he was numbered with us, and had obtained part of this ministry.  Act 1:18  Now this man purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out.

Act 1:19  And it was known unto all the dwellers at Jerusalem; insomuch as that field is called in their proper tongue, Aceldama, that is to say, The field of blood. Act 1:20  For it is written in the book of Psalms, Let his habitation be desolate, and let no man dwell therein: and his bishoprick let another take. Act 1:21  Wherefore of these men which have companied with us all the time that the Lord Jesus went in and out among us, Act 1:22  Beginning from the baptism of John, unto that same day that he was taken up from us, must one be ordained to be a witness with us of his resurrection. Act 1:23  And they appointed two, Joseph called Barsabas, who was surnamed Justus, and Matthias.

Act 1:24  And they prayed, and said, Thou, Lord, which knowest the hearts of all men, shew whether of these two thou hast chosen, Act 1:25  That he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place. Act 1:26  And they gave forth their lots; and the lot fell upon Matthias; and he was numbered with the eleven apostles. Joh 6:70  Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil? Joh 15:16  Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you. Mar_3:14  And he ordained twelve, that they should be with him, and that he might send them forth to preach, 

(From the 3rd group was chosen one to join the 1st group). 

ACTS 2: starts with a new day, that of Pentecost.

 It starts speaking of the 1st group of whom there is now 12 (11+1) and was the last group spoken of in Acts 1:26.  Remember in original there is no chapters nor verse.  Apostles being the last word of 1:26 becomes the “they” of 2:1 

Act 2:1  And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. (Place not identified as same upper room where apostles abode in 1:13.  It was a different day and place otherwise would not have said “in one place” but “upper room where abode”)

Act 2:2  And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting. Act 2:3  And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.

Act 2:4  And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance. 

New time, (not necessarily new day) and new event: We know this by “when noised abroad.. came together”.

Act 2:5  And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven.

Act 2:6  Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language. Act 2:7  And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans? Act 2:8  And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?   Account goes on to distinguish between speakers and hearers

Act 2:14  But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye

Act 2:21  And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.

So far I do not see anyone but the 1st group getting the H.S’s gift of speaking in tongues.  12 apostles!

Act 2:22  Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:

Act 2:38  Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

The verse could have said receive the Holy Ghost if that is what it meant.  It specifically says “gift of”  for a specific reason (see below). 

Act 2:39  For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call

Acts 2:38  Remember the gift and promise as mentioned in Acts 1:8, taken from Luke 24:49 was those to whom the promise was given would be "witnesses" of what they had seen.  These were ones who met the many criteria given in Acts 1:2-5.  A credible witness is one with first hand knowledge of what they saw, not hearsay.  The 3,000 of Acts 2:38 did not see only had hearsay knowledge of Peter in Acts 2.  Today, evangelist as those who go door to door can bring people to God through their hearsay knowledge from the bible and their testimonies.  They do not need gift of speaking in tongues for this.  Similarly the Eunuch in Acts 8, the 3,000 Acts 2:38 and the 5,000 of Acts 4:4 can all go back to their countries or communities and spread the faith; but NOT based on being a "witness" (unless to the particular miracle they saw); but on the explanation of the scriptures given to them of the law and prophets.  

Now to see who the “chosen” and “ordained of Acts 1:2 and 2:22 were” 

Act 1:22  Beginning from the baptism of John, unto that same day that he was taken up from us, must one be ordained to be a witness with us of his resurrection.   Joh 15:16  Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.   Mar 3:14  And he ordained twelve, that they should be with him, and that he might send them forth to preach,   ONLY THE 12 APOSTLES WERE ORDAINED.

Act 1:2  Until the day in which he was taken up, after that he through the Holy Ghost had given commandments unto the apostles whom he had chosen:  Joh 6:70  Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil? 

So, biblically, not ALL got gift of speaking in tongues or Holy Spirit. When others than these 12 got either the bible specifically mentions i.e. Cornelius and John the Baptist’s disciples of Acts 19:5-6.  Note baptism did not automatically give them gift of H.S.  Paul had to lay HIS hands on them and request it.  This was proof / confirmation to them to accept a new rabbi than John.

Many tongue speakers of today make the inherited errors of understanding from Acts 1:15 in thinking the time / day of v13 “entered the room” is the same as v15 “in those days”.  Luke the physician is said to have written Acts.  A physician is a person of precision and knows if one administers the wrong dosage or medicine it can have fatal effects.  The same would be his approach to relaying the account of the events. The difference between 12 or everyone getting the holy spirit is of great significance that God, through the holy spirit inspiring Luke to relay the account, would not be ambiguous.  One only has to read God speaking to Moses to know He is not one of ambiguity. 

From the outset in Acts, Luke shows he can choose words to distinguish one day from another or days (plural) even within the same sentence.  Act 1:2  Until the day in which he was taken up, after that he through the Holy Ghost had.   Here he uses “the day” and “after that” day.  It is confirmed that v13 is speaking of a specific day, that on which they returned from the mount, by verse Act 1:22  Beginning from the baptism of John, unto that same day that he was taken up from us, 

There are numerous verses in Acts to show Luke distinguishes between specific days and a period of time as in “those days”.  Here are three:

Act 2:29  Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.  Act 2:41  Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. Act 17:31  Because he hath appointed a day, in… 

I chose three different ways Luke identifies a certain day.  He uses these more than once as well as “Sabbath day” and others.  Thus he had and used variety of vocabulary to identify a certain day.  When it comes to a non specific day; but a period of time he uses the plural ”days”

Act 1:5  For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.  Act 1:15  And in those days Peter stood up in…   Act 2:17  And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God…  Act 3:24  Yea, and all the prophets from Samuel and those that follow after, as many as have spoken, have likewise foretold of these days. Act 5:37  After this man rose up Judas of Galilee in the days of the taxing, and drew…  Again I chose three different ones used. 

I hope you now agree at v15 the period of time referred to by Luke Changes from that of v13.  You then went onto to the “they” of v23. I assume to try and link it with the they 2:1.  Again this is a grave error.  As I said in the email sent and from what we were working, Acts 2:1 It starts speaking of the 1st group of whom there is now 12 (11+1) and was the last group spoken of in Acts 1:26.  Remember in original there is no chapters nor verse.  “Eleven Apostles” being the last word of 1:26 becomes the “they” of 2:1.  

Acts 2:1 starts with a different day to that on which the lot was cast in 1:26  (2:1 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come..).  It would be foolish to think it was the same day or that Luke reverts to talking about the “they” of v26 when he had left speaking of them and moved onto the “eleven apostles” and in between those two groups he spoke of Matthias.  This is the same writing pattern as Act 1:13  And when they were come in, they went up into an upper room..  The “they” refers to the last group spoken of. 

Heb 9:19  For when Moses had spoken every precept to all the people according to the law, he took the blood of calves and of goats, with water, and scarlet wool, and hyssop, and sprinkled both the book, and all the people,
Heb 9:20  Saying, This is the blood of the testament which God hath enjoined unto you.
Heb 9:21  Moreover he sprinkled with blood both the tabernacle, and all the vessels of the ministry.

 As we discussed the moreover does not relate to the same time as v19.  V19 is from Ex 24 and v21 from Lev 6 (I think).  This is simply to show a word within a sentence can indicate two different time periods.  You say I go too deeply into sentences; but we are told to rightly DIVIDE the word of truth.

FIRST TIME PERIOD, A SPECIFIC DAY (even if we accept the "continued" relates to the topic of them frequently "praying" together):   Act 1:12  Then returned they unto Jerusalem from the mount called Olivet, which is from Jerusalem a sabbath day's journey. Act 1:13 And when they were come in, they went up into an upper room, where abode both Peter, and James, and John, and Andrew, Philip, and Thomas, Bartholomew, and Matthew, James the son of Alphaeus, and Simon Zelotes, and Judas the brother of James. Act 1:14  These all continued with one accord in prayer and supplication, with the women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with his brethren.

2nd time period and change of topic; nolonger about praying together or the previous First time period.
Act 1:15  And in those days Peter stood up in the midst of the disciples, and said, (the number of names together were about an hundred and twenty,)   Here we are given a number of the people "about 120" which was not given before; but that group was differently described "the women, Mary the mother.. and his brethren".  Hence two different time periods and two different group composition.

By the time we get to 2:1 "and when the day of Pentecost was fully come...” we are on a 3rd time period and event.  That, as said above, goes onto state what happened on the day of Pentecost, when Jews from all around the world gathered for the day feast day now called Pentecost, to hear the gospel of the Messiah for and of whom they have been waiting and reading in the scriptures.  Apostles spoke, in particular Peter and the congregation heard in their own tongue without the need of an interpreter.  It therefore became a sign to the unbeliever (Orthodox Jew) as mentioned by Paul in 1 Cor 14:22.  Peter knew what he was saying so could interpret his own speech.  This conforms with 1 Cor 14:5, 13, 15, 27 where the speaker is also able to interpret (understand) what “he” is saying.

 

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